["Interview" of Joseph about his experience the day he was not selected to replace Judas, with audience playing 'chorus' parts as The Assembly, as Joseph's family & fans, as Matthias' partisans.]INTRODUCTION + segue:
Now for breaking news from long ago, we have access to an interview with the disciple Joseph, about the day the entire church community gathered in Jerusalem to select a new 12th apostle. Let's listen:
INTERVIEWER:
Do you remember that day, Joseph?
JOSEPH:
Like it was yesterday! Word went out through the assembly that Judas (God have mercy on his soul) was going to be replaced, so that The Twelve would again be twelve. There was a lot of excitement -- a real buzz in the crowd.
People were standing around, and just started shouting out names. My name, Matthias of course, Nicanor, Timon, Nicholas (although a Gentile), even Tabitha and Martha (Mary's sister) had their fans. It was bedlam.
CHORUS: buzz, buzz, buzz
INTERVIEWER:
So what happened?
JOSEPH:
Well, when Peter and the others came out from the room they had been in, everyone fell silent in an instant. I don't even know how everyone knew to do that, but it always happened like that
-- in a flash -- just as the apostles came out. Peter said they had been praying about whether to replace Judas, and with whom. And that they had decided
"It was entirely fitting therefore, that one of us who was of our company while the Lord Jesus walked among us, from the baptism of John to the day he was taken up from us, to be named as witness with us to his Resurrection". So then the buzzing started up again ...
CHORUS:
Timon was one of us from the earliest days, choose him!
No, no, no -- he came later, don't you remember?
Matthias, Matthias, Matthias.
JOSEPH:
The crowd was strong for Matthias
[CHORUS: Matthias, Matthias, Matthias!]
but my kin never got along with Matthias' kin, so they started to boo [CHORUS]. Well, one look from Peter at practically my whole family, and they shut up immediately. But then they found their voices in a more ...positive manner.
CHORUS:
Joseph, Joseph he's our man, if he
can't do it nobody can. [repeat]
JOSEPH:
Then Peter announced that the Eleven had decided that it would come down to either Matthias or me -- nobody else should be considered. That provoked another general hubbub. My family was getting into it again...
CHORUS:
Joseph, Joseph he's our man, if he can't do it nobody can. [repeat]
JOSEPH:
...some of the women, and the men standing around them, didn't like that it was to be him or me. They were yelling names [CHORUS: Martha, Tabitha, Mary, Mary, Martha, Tabitha, Mary...] until Peter shot them a look (a gentle look) and gestured with his hands, so they stopped.
INTERVIEWER:
What did you think at that point?
JOSEPH:
Of course I wanted to be one of The Twelve! They didn't have any money, or houses, but everyone looked up to them. Who wouldn't want to be with the big guys? I have an ego (you may not know that), but I think my ego is a pretty big part of who I am. So, of course I wanted it. It was only later that I really thought about it -- how hard it might be, and whether I would really
want to be that far out in front. I mean, I *like* to talk, don't get me wrong. But I don't always say the right things. Kind of like Peter, I thought, so maybe that is not a bad sign.
Right then Peter put out his hands and looked up, saying
"O Lord, you read the hearts of men. Make known to us which of these two you choose for this apostolic ministry, replacing Judas, who deserted the cause and went the way he was destined to go". THAT got everyone serious in a second. I mean it is one thing for us to choose -- based on who we like and what we know and want [CHORUS: Joseph, Joseph he's our man, if he can't do it nobody can.]
OTHER CHORUS: Martha, Tabitha, Mary, Mary, Martha, Tabitha, Mary...]
JOSEPH:
(see what I mean?), but it is another thing to ask us to figure out what God wants.
INTERVIEWER:
How'd you do that?
JOSEPH:
I can't speak for anyone else, but I can tell you what I did after Peter told us to listen for God telling us who to choose. I prayed like I never have before. And thoughts were just flying through me. I may have been hyper-ventilating. I started to worry about whether I was strong enough to be an apostle, instead of thinking how much I deserved it. I realized that Matthias has a lot to offer -- he's way more clever than I am. And that stuff between my family and his? I couldn't even remember how that started. I looked around -- a lot of people were davening, or in trances, or lying face down. It became a VERY serious group.
INTERVIEWER:
Well, what about a woman? I interviewed a number of people -- men and women -- about whether a woman should have been chosen. I did not get a consensus on any point. Some thought that a woman would not be accepted by new converts; others said The Word is The Word and it should not matter in the new church we are creating. What did you think?
JOSEPH:
I did not really think about it then. When it came down -- finally -- to him or me, I pushed all those thoughts out and I got real quiet inside, cold even. If I was breathing, it was with the softest breaths I have ever taken. I realized that if God were calling me, I wasn't feeling it. I wondered if the cold was fear -- that I was afraid of what I might have to do as an apostle. And I thought that I had no idea -- if I was really feeling afraid -- what that would mean for who God wanted.
INTERVIEWER:
Tell me about that cold.
JOSEPH:
Well, the cold did not feel like fear. In fact, I had a sense of peace, just not of being called. I have no idea how much time passed, but when I looked up, my whole family was looking at me. I smiled, pointed at myself, and shook my head from side to side. Only one of my cousins got it at first [CHORUS: Matthias, Matthias, Matthias!], but I smiled at him, and then the others picked it up [CHORUS: Matthias, Matthias, Matthias!]. When the rest of the assembly saw who it was that had changed their tune, the whole group started chanting [CHORUS: Matthias, Matthias, Matthias!].
I may have imagined it, but I think the sun just came out then, too. Peter looked over at me, I smiled, said Matthias, Matthias, Matthias! and that was that.
INTERVIEWER:
Well, wait a minute here ... what about a woman?
JOSEPH:
Look, this was just one selection. We never in a thousand years thought a woman would never be selected. In fact, I think everyone understood that we would have to have women in any top group. Just not that day. What does the book say? "God's time is not like our time". If you're telling me it won't be for thousands of years, well, that's crazy. But maybe that is God's time....
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